This is the audio recording of the presentation at the Risk and Resilience Festival at the Technical University at Enschede in November 2019 - combined with the slides. The sound quality is modest because I was walking towards and away from the recording device, sorry about that!

A few notes

07:50 The transcript of David Woods’s presentation used to be available from: However, when I checked before uploading the clip it was gone…

12:50 Find the Eurocontrol White Paper on Safety-II by Googling (as suggested after the presentation), or just go to:

Note that many slides include references to the sources and suggestions for further reading.

More impressions from the festival in these clips: my teaser (, and the aftermovie (